Leading in Chaos
In this conversation with Nicholas Janni and Amy Elizabeth Fox, we discuss some of the core topics of their new book, “Leading in Chaos”. We explore what it means to lead in chaotic times — returning from exile, cultivating the frequency of hope, and learning how to bring real change into organizations. We move through awareness practices, enabling meaningful conversations, directive versus facilitative coaching, and the deeper invitation to embrace the role of teacher and to be a blessing in the world.

















