episode 256 | Sep 24, 2025 | 48min

The Therapy-Coaching Boundary is Transformational

In this conversation between Joel and Karim Hirani, we unpack the increasingly insistent question of where the boundary between therapy and coaching lies, the nature of the transformational practitioner, the 4 C’s of ethical inquiry, making boundaries conscious and the medicine of connection.
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In this podcast we talk about:

01:30 The context in which we coach
04:00 Exploring the transformational boundary
09:30 Beyond the self-improvement paradigm
14:30 The spectrum of maturity
19:20 The transformational practitioner
24:45 The 4 C’s of ethical considerations
29:30 Making boundaries conscious
37:00 Meeting the world in these times
40:00 The medicine of connection

Resources Mentioned:
Steve March
Kim Barta
Peter Hawkins

About the Guest

Karim Hirani

Karim Hirani

Karim Hirani is Global Head of Quality and Design for BTS Coach and oversees quality, training and skill development for BTS Coach associates. As Head of Design function, Karim develops programs meet the needs of organizations globally. His thought leadership in coaching has taken the form of peer reviewed papers, presenting at ICF Global, ICF US, ICF Europe, ICF Australia and APAC conferences, and he is the co-author of “The four greatest coaching conversations”.

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About the Host

Joel Monk

Joel Monk is a leadership coach, educator and entrepreneur. He co-founded Coaches Rising, a company on the cutting edge of online coach training with a community of over 65,000 coaches. Coaches Rising programs regularly include participants from every continent on the planet and they have collaborated with some of the leading minds in the field of human development and coaching. Joel is also a leadership coach, coaching at companies such as THNK, Booking.com, Siemens and Naspers. Joel has designed and led several entrepreneurial and leadership development programs, at places such as Socionext, THNK and The Impact Hub Amsterdam.

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