episode 232 | Jan 23, 2025 | 77min

The Science of Change

In this conversation with Richard Boyatzis we explore the foundations of his new book, The Science of Change, including the stages of change, the “coaching bully” phenomenon, balancing the presenting issue with the wider vision, working with positive and negative emotional attractors, and moving the industry forward.
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In this podcast we talk about:

01:00 Introducing Richard
10:00 What helps people change
19:00 The “coaching bully” phenomenon
23:30 Shifting out of “defensive mode”
31:00 Balancing presenting issue and vision
34:00 Creating moments of renewal
37:30 Using action learning assignments
43:30 The place of AI in coaching
50:00 Positive vs negative emotional attractors
54:30 Utilising PEA’s in a practical setting
1:00:20 Working with NEA’s
1:07:30 Moving the industry forward

Resources Mentioned:
The science of change, by Richard Boyatzis
Amanda Blake
Naomi Eisenberger
Nicky Terblanche

About the Guest

Richard Boyatzis

Richard E. Boyatzis is Distinguished University Professor of Case Western Reserve​ University, and a Professor in the Departments of Organizational Behavior, Psychology,​ and Cognitive Science. His more than 200 scholarly and 50​ practitioner articles examine sustained, desired change on leadership, competencies,emotional intelligence, competency development, coaching, neuroscience and​ management education. He is ranked in the top 2% of all scientists worldwide by PLOS​ Biology based on his citations. His Coursera MOOCs have over 1 ½ million visitors and​ enrolled from 215 countries. His 10 books include: the international best-seller, Primal​ Leadership with Daniel Goleman and Annie McKee; Helping People Change with​ Melvin Smith and Ellen Van Oosten; and the new The Science of Change: Discovering​ Sustained, Desired Change from Individuals to Organizations and Communities.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-boyatzis-401822a/
https://case.edu/weatherhead/about/faculty-and-staff-directory/richard-boyatzis

About the Host

Joel Monk

Joel Monk is a leadership coach, educator and entrepreneur. He co-founded Coaches Rising, a company on the cutting edge of online coach training with a community of over 65,000 coaches. Coaches Rising programs regularly include participants from every continent on the planet and they have collaborated with some of the leading minds in the field of human development and coaching. Joel is also a leadership coach, coaching at companies such as THNK, Booking.com, Siemens and Naspers. Joel has designed and led several entrepreneurial and leadership development programs, at places such as Socionext, THNK and The Impact Hub Amsterdam.

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