episode 250 | Jul 23, 2025 | 65min

Coaching Systemic Connections

In this conversation with Peter Hawkins we dive into the metacrisis and the role of the systems perspective on coaching, shifting from coaching the individual to coaching connections, leaving into the learning edge, 3 levels of systemic awareness, and the place of prayer.
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In this podcast we talk about:

04:00 The context for the metacrisis
10:00 AI for the benefit of humans
14:00 Fostering systemic awareness
20:00 Identifying the wider system
29:00 Leaning into the learning edge
33:00 Moving from judgement to curiosity
37:30 A place for prayer
42:00 Three levels of systemic awareness
48:00 Listening with and through
55:00 A collaborative inquiry process

Resources Mentioned:

Beauty in leadership and coaching, by Peter Hawkins 
Iain McGilchrist
Jill Nephew 
Gregory Bateson
Team of teams coaching, by Peter Hawkins and Catherine Carr

About the Guest

Peter Hawkins

Peter Hawkins Ph.D. is Emeritus Professor of Leadership at Henley Business School and Chairman of Renewal Associates, a global consulting and coaching company. For 45 years he has worked with organizations, leadership teams, and CEOs around the world on strategic change and leadership development. He is a global thought leader, teacher and best-selling author, defining field in leadership and team development, organizational transformation, and ecological and systemic coaching and supervision. His latest book: “Beauty in Leadership and Coaching: And Its Role in Transforming Human Consciousness” will be published by Routledge in early December 2024.

About the Host

Joel Monk

Joel Monk is a leadership coach, educator and entrepreneur. He co-founded Coaches Rising, a company on the cutting edge of online coach training with a community of over 65,000 coaches. Coaches Rising programs regularly include participants from every continent on the planet and they have collaborated with some of the leading minds in the field of human development and coaching. Joel is also a leadership coach, coaching at companies such as THNK, Booking.com, Siemens and Naspers. Joel has designed and led several entrepreneurial and leadership development programs, at places such as Socionext, THNK and The Impact Hub Amsterdam.

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